{"id":13754,"date":"2025-07-11T10:56:18","date_gmt":"2025-07-11T08:56:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/?p=13754"},"modified":"2025-07-11T10:56:18","modified_gmt":"2025-07-11T08:56:18","slug":"ignoring-the-80-20-rule-with-group-rides","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/ignoring-the-80-20-rule-with-group-rides\/","title":{"rendered":"Ignoring the 80\/20 rule with Group Rides"},"content":{"rendered":"Reading Time: <\/span> 2<\/span> minutes<\/span><\/span>

Yesterday I rode with Group 2 rather than Group 1 with TDC. I believe I could keep up for a second time. I also believe that when you’re cycling hard three times a week it takes a lot of energy.My experience last Saturday showed that I was pushing myself too hard by riding by cyclists stronger than me three times in a week, especially after riding close to my max on Wednesday, Thursday and then Sunday.<\/p>\n

I noticed that I am now two to three kilos lighter than I was in winter. I see this as being because of how hard I have been cycling recently. Two days ago I signed up for a long ride but changed my mind when I saw that the group was full. I liked the idea of a long ride in a small group. I don’t like the idea of a long ride in a bigger group because I know the group will push hard.<\/p>\n

Yesterday I pushed hard and got twenty nine achievements. I sprinted on climbs where I loved to sprint when I was riding solo years ago. It’s by doing this that I blew myself out for the final climb that was endurance rather than a sprint. I miscalculated the effort I would have to put out.<\/p>\n

If I had not sprinted on these climbs I would have been fresh for that final extended climb at the end. If I read the course, and remembered it properly then I would have held back.<\/p>\n

Last week I only mildy overdid it and this week I am taking it too easy according to Strava. According to Garmin today I should rest. Wednesday Morning and Thursday evening I pushed myself.<\/p>\n

Tomorrow I plan to go for a relaxed 55 kilometre ride with Bike Club Switzerland but I will cycle 22km into Geneva, and then the same distance back out. I expect that I will get another metric century ride. If I was to join the relaxed long ride I expect that the group would be fast, and if I join the moderate ride I expect I would need to ride hard for over ninety kilometres. I am not used to riding long distances yet so to do that ride would be to be pushed by others, rather than to push myself.<\/p>\n

Last time I cycled back from Geneva along the lake I felt fine. I hope to repeat that experience tomorrow, although I think I will go up for the ride home.<\/p>\n

And Finally<\/h2>\n

The short relaxed ride should be along roads I am not familiar with and it should be at a comfortable pace. It is flatter. I expect the ride to be pleasant. By going for an easier group I tried to apply the 80\/20 rule.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Reading Time: <\/span> 2<\/span> minutes<\/span><\/span>Yesterday I rode with Group 2 rather than Group 1 with TDC. I believe I could keep up for a second time. I also believe that when you’re cycling hard three times a week it takes a lot of energy.My experience last Saturday showed that I was pushing myself too hard by riding by cyclists […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":13705,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":3,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"federated","footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[255],"tags":[6684,735,713,6645,49,6772,6913,5073],"class_list":["post-13754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-swiss-walks","tag-base","tag-endurance","tag-fitness","tag-group","tag-social","tag-tempo","tag-threshold","tag-training"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13754"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13755,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13754\/revisions\/13755"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/13705"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.main-vision.com\/richard\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}